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Indonesian Justification of the Killings in East Timor

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Title

Indonesian Justification of the Killings in East Timor

Subject

Timor-Leste.
Timor-Leste -- History -- Autonomy and independence movements.

Description

Oral history video clip featuring Jamsheed Marker, United Nations Special Envoy to East Timor. This video was originally produced by Media Entertainment, Inc., for the 2000 documentary The Genocide Factor.

Creator

Media Entertainment, Inc.

Source

Genocide Factor Collection, Oral History Program, Tampa Library,
University of South Florida, Tampa, Florida.

Publisher

Tampa, Fla. : University of South Florida Tampa Library.

Date

1999-11-16

Contributor

Marker, Jamsheed

Relation

G36-00048
Tape number: 4109C

Format

video / mp4

Language

English

Type

Oral History

Coverage

Timor-Leste.
Indonesia.

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Interviewee

Marker, Jamsheed

Transcription

You know, when you talk about killings in East Timor—and I said it’s about 200,000 from the time that this incident began until the time—until, well, about now, probably a little over 200,000 is the total number killed. Nobody can really justify it. But seen in the context of what happened in Indonesia in ’65 onward ’67, the amount of killings that occurred then, at the time when the Sukarno regime fell, of the large number of Chinese who were killed, of the large number of Indonesians who died—I mean, Chinese Indonesians who died—in their countercoup against the communists. And that figure nobody’s ever guessed, but it goes into the millions, I’m told. So, that was a real, real bloodbath. This, in a sense, was a continuation of the same thing; it all happened at the same time. The rest of it stopped, and Indonesia and Suharto started on this economic revival and became the big powerful country that it was. But the Indonesians, unfortunately, like so many other people, are not immune to mass killings. It’s happened in the history of most people, and in their case it was a recent history. So, how do they justify it? I don’t think they justify it, but I don’t think—I think they accept it as a part of their—part of their destiny, if you like.

Original Format

Beta tape

Duration

2:22

Citation

Media Entertainment, Inc., “Indonesian Justification of the Killings in East Timor,” USF Library Special & Digital Collections Exhibits, accessed December 12, 2017, http://exhibits.lib.usf.edu/items/show/598.

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